[Elphel-support] elphel NC353L-12V Kit defect

Olga Filippova olga at elphel.com
Mon May 9 12:08:26 PDT 2011


Hello Viatcheslav,

We can send the new 10353 board to you, if you think you can disassemble the
camera and replace the board. In this case please ship us back the 10353
board, so we can test it and find the problem.
The other option would be to ship the camera back to Elphel, and we will
replace the board here.

Best Regards,

Olga S Filippova
Elphel, Inc.
801.783.5555x107
www.elphel.com


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Viatcheslav Tretyakov <
viatcheslav.tretyakov at iais.fraunhofer.de> wrote:

>  Hello Andrey,
>
> we tested the camera the way you described. Here are the answers.
>
>
> What camera is it? Does it have 10359 board? 10369 board? What software is it running ?
>
> It's the 10353. I tried this with the original software that was on
> the camera, with the software compiled from the sources and also with
> modified sources (both FPGA and MC).
>
>
> a) changing the image in front of the camera - you can check it by putting a mirror in front of the camera lens and
> rotating the mirror
>
> I do not get this?! What should this do? Doesn't have any influence if the camera and the cable are fixed.
>
> b) shaking the camera itself (i.e. bad contact in the internal flex cable) - you can turn the network cable around and tape it to the camera, so when you move the camera, nothing changes to the network connection
>
> The distortion appears.
>
> c) bad contact in the network cable - attach camera firmly to the table and move the network cable
>
> This is what we think that causes the problem. When messing around
> with the network cable in the jack at some positions the image
> distorts and after moving it again, the image gets distorted in other
> ways, also getting a normal image is possible again.
>
> d)  it actually happens not because of the movement, but because of the electrostatic discharge when you touch the camera
>
> Shouldn't the case be electrostatic discharge proof? But without even
> touching the camera (only moving the network cable) the image
> distorts, I tried this with the camera attached on the tripod.
>
>
> Regards,
> Viatcheslav
>
>
>
> On 04/16/2011 03:04 AM, Andrey Filippov wrote:
>
> Viatcheslav,
>
> there is another possible reason to break the image when you move the
> camera
> d)  it actually happens not because of the movement, but because of the
> electrostatic discharge when you touch the camera
>
> Can you please try these?
>
> Andrey
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Andrey Filippov <
> support-list at support.elphel.com> wrote:
>
>> Viacheslav,
>>
>> What camera is it? Does it have 10359 board? 10369 board? What software is
>> it running ?
>>
>> As for "moving the camera" as the reason for breaking the image - it can
>> be one of the several reasons, you may narrow down the problem by making
>> some testing:
>>
>> a) changing the image in front of the camera
>>  -  you can check it by putting a mirror in front of the camera lens and
>> rotating the mirror
>>
>> b) shaking the camera itself (i.e. bad contact in the internal flex cable)
>>
>>  - you can turn the network cable around and tape it to the camera, so
>> when you move the camera, nothing changes to the network connection
>>
>> c) bad contact in the network cable
>>  - attach camera firmly to the table and move the network cable
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrey
>>
>>  On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Viatcheslav Tretyakov <
>> viatcheslav.tretyakov at iais.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> from the very beginning of the Kit's usage we've been facing image
>>> distortions. The defect, which at first we thought is software related,
>>> appears after several seconds of using the camera. The defect is
>>> reproducible by just moving the camera. I attached an image showing this
>>> image distortion effect. What could the problem and how to solve it?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Viatcheslav
>>>
>>> --
>>> Viatcheslav Tretyakov
>>> Fraunhofer-Institut Intelligente Analyse- und Informationssysteme IAIS
>>> Schloss Birlinghoven, 53754 Sankt Augustin
>>> Telefon 02241 14-2771 (-2046 Sekr.)
>>> Fax 02241 14-2342
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>>> http://www.iais.fraunhofer.de/
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Viatcheslav Tretyakov
> Fraunhofer-Institut Intelligente Analyse- und Informationssysteme IAIS
> Schloss Birlinghoven, 53754 Sankt Augustin
> Telefon 02241 14-2771 (-2046 Sekr.)
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