[Elphel-support] POE card in custom enclosure?

[Nathan Clark]

Andrey,

Thanks for your insight! That sounds really quite cool!
A few questions (and please forgive my ignorance)

I am using the 12v model elphel 353's- I would like to set up my box without
needing a customized PCB...
would it be possible to use your method and connect directly to one of the
molex's coming straight from a 12v DC PSU?

Also, can you tell me how you powered the switch? was it on the same power
as the rest of the assembly, or did you have to power multiple inputs, one
for the switch & one for everything else?

Finally, I'd love to know which switch you used.

Once again, please forgive my ignorance I am not savvy with electronics and
your valuable knowledge is highly appreciated!

Thanks,

Nathan



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Andrey Filippov <
support-list at support.elphel.com> wrote:

> Nathan, Sebastian,
>
> I can tell you how it is done in the Eyesis (it uses regular 48V, 36-72V
> input). In order to reduce number of the connectors inside the camera (and
> connectors are the most likely to fail components so just the network
> connector on the NC353 camera can be a source of interruptions) we ordered
> custom modified cables - the cables are cut open near the other (opposite to
> the camera) connector (~10cm from the end), the two non-signal pairs are
> separated from the RJ45 connector, extended anothe 10cm and a 2-pin Molex
> Microfit-3 connectors are attached. Then, inside the "data storage box"
> these connector plugs go the the 48V DC connectors on the PCB there, while
> RJ45 (with only 2 pairs left) go to a small 5-port GigE switch. While the
> cameras are 100Mbps, usage iof Gigabit switch makes sense - the single
> (gigabit) downstream cable going out of the switch can handle 3 attached
> cameras without slowing them down when they are  working in parallel.
>
> Andrey
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Sebastian Pichelhofer <
> sebastian.pichelhofer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess it would work If the voltage range matches.
>>
>> What about 2 of these?
>>
>> http://www.optimal-microsystems.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=187&osCsid=d1c5619458c4128fa95f8e62d04adad5
>>
>> I assume your router will be inside the custom enclosure so these have
>> the advantage that only the connectors that go to the cameras are on
>> the outside surface of the custom enclosure and the cables inside the
>> enclosure can be routed easier.
>>
>> Regards Sebastian
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:03, Nathan Clark <nathan at nathanclark.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Sebastian,
>> >
>> > I certainly could put the current power injectors- as supplied from
>> elphel-
>> > within the box. Although this would be a bit of a hack.
>> > I am hoping to construct a more "finished" device. It would be very
>> nice, by
>> > design, to have neatly placed I/O ethernet ports properly embedded into
>> the
>> > assembly!
>> > Admittedly it is total "Overkill"... (the whole project is really)- but
>> > would it still work?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Nathan
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Sebastian Pichelhofer
>> > <sebastian.pichelhofer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Nathan
>> >>
>> >> Your cameras run on 12-36V and you should have the power injector
>> >> adapter cable right?
>> >> For this you would not need any PCB or circuit at all to inject the
>> >> power its simply connecting certain pins of the Ethernet cable to the
>> >> voltage.
>> >>
>> >> The link you provided states: "is an adaptor that eliminates the need
>> >> to run high voltage power 110VAC to remote wireless access in order to
>> >> power RF transmitters/receivers" so I think that's clearly an overkill
>> >> ;)
>> >>
>> >> Couldn't you just place the 2 injector cable adapters inside your
>> >> custom enclosure and wire both of them to a single battery with a
>> >> Y-power splitter cable?
>> >>
>> >> Regards Sebastian
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:30, Nathan Clark <nathan at nathanclark.com.au
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am planning to construct an enclosure to house peripherals attached
>> to
>> >> > my
>> >> > elphel cameras.
>> >> > This way I have everything I need in one neat box which can be
>> powered
>> >> > from
>> >> > a single PSU- making the setup easier to manage in various
>> situations.
>> >> > Additionally, I would also like to use this box to have 2x POE
>> injectors
>> >> > contained within- further simplifying the design of the camera rig.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am hoping someone could have a look at the following component, and
>> >> > confirm whether or not it would be appropriate.
>> >> >
>> >> > INJECTOR-PS48 -
>> http://www.eidusa.com/Electronics_Kits_PoE_injector.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > or if it is not the right component, is there something you could
>> >> > recommend?
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks for your time,
>> >> >
>> >> > Nathan
>> >> >
>> >> > PS. you can follow the progress of this project at the Apertus forum.
>> >> > http://cinema.elphel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=108
>> >> >
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